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CSCin3D		#4041	[-]
Posts: 8052 (05/02/08 7:59 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Erik and Natalie definitely would have beaten her. Just like Alexis herself, Oowatanite is delusional and has no self-awareness.
GodIsAnAtheist		#4042	[-]
Posts: 3490 (05/02/08 8:20 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LKMOSCAR wrote: shoeless rye wrote: What was Cirie's motivation to vote Amanda as part of the ruse? It was a blindeside and it happened to make Erik and Natalie think that Cirie/Amanda/Parvati weren't as tight as they actually were. Which puts YET ANOTHER NAIL in her coffin, seeing as how she was privvy to a huge gamechanging moment in the season, and they edited to make it look like she got caught looking like a dumb bitch. You must have missed her confessional saying that she wished that there was some way that Amanda could stay. Didn't she also say that she wanted Alexis gone instead? I know what you are referring to, but we weren't shown Cirie being included on the plan like we were with Parvati. Henceforth, vis-a-vis, she appeared to get played like a fiddle, once again drastically reducing her already nonexistent chance to win this season. She actually has negative chances to win, after that episode.
NOV1962		#4043	[-]
Posts: 58 (05/02/08 8:31 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GodIsAnAtheist wrote: LKMOSCAR wrote: shoeless rye wrote: What was Cirie's motivation to vote Amanda as part of the ruse? It was a blindeside and it happened to make Erik and Natalie think that Cirie/Amanda/Parvati weren't as tight as they actually were. Which puts YET ANOTHER NAIL in her coffin, seeing as how she was privvy to a huge gamechanging moment in the season, and they edited to make it look like she got caught looking like a dumb bitch. You must have missed her confessional saying that she wished that there was some way that Amanda could stay. Didn't she also say that she wanted Alexis gone instead? I know what you are referring to, but we weren't shown Cirie being included on the plan like we were with Parvati. Henceforth, vis-a-vis, she appeared to get played like a fiddle, once again drastically reducing her already nonexistent chance to win this season. She actually has negative chances to win, after that episode. Did anyone not watch the show???? I could tell at tribal council that Cirie knew about the idol, because of the smug look she had on her face and the smiles back/forth between them and the hand holding......
GodIsAnAtheist		#4044	[-]
Posts: 3493 (05/02/08 8:36 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	NOV1962 wrote: Did anyone not watch the show???? I could tell at tribal council that Cirie knew about the idol, because of the smug look she had on her face and the smiles back/forth between them and the hand holding...... It's not about what you know, or what you think you know. It's what was shown in the show. It was edited, regardless of whether you could interpret some super-subtle clue to the contrary, to show Cirie as an outsider to the plan. PERIOD.
Oowatanite		#4045	[-]
Posts: 5148 (05/02/08 8:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CSCin3D wrote: Erik and Natalie definitely would have beaten her. Just like Alexis herself, Oowatanite is delusional and has no self-awareness. And you're a fuckin' asshole. Why don't you go away and work on your "Melinda for ASS2" campaign ? Idiot. She had zero gameplay, and I think that the Faves will vote for the person who is actually the most-deserving instead of someone who basically sat there and did nothing the entire game (Alexis). If Alexis had won the game, her edit would have been completely different. We were not shown too much gameplay because it had no effect on the endgame. All we are shown in the episodes from the other players is that "Alexis is honest" and "Alexis is a motivational speaker" and "Alexis is too dangerous to keep until the F3". Have we heard anything about the players fearing Erik in the F3? Or Natalie ? NO. Case closed.
shoeless rye		#4046	[-]
Posts: 4970 (05/02/08 8:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Are they going to try and play it up like Parvati didn't know either? She voted Alexis simply because she wasn't going to vote Amanda and thought it was a throwaway and she told Amanda thinking it wasn't a big deal since Amanda was going home sorta deal? The way they are all scrambling next week, you'd have to believe Erik and Natalie don't see them as a strong threesome. I mean why would Erik propose a Cirie/Parvati/Erik F3 if he knew Cirie and Parvati knew about the blindside this week? Does Parvati want to look innocent to Alexis and Natalie for the jury? Does she not believe Amanda would bring it up in a second if she thinks it would get her votes? They were probably just selling the drama to get a good television moment. I guess we'll see next week.
Weazlegirl		#4047	[-]
Posts: 8 (05/02/08 9:35 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is there a good spoiler list in these 200+ postings? Forgive me for being lazy, but if someone could at least point the way, I'd appreciate it a lot!!!! Thanks! :)
GodIsAnAtheist		#4048	[-]
Posts: 3495 (05/02/08 9:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Weazlegirl wrote: Is there a good spoiler list in these 200+ postings? Forgive me for being lazy, but if someone could at least point the way, I'd appreciate it a lot!!!! Thanks! :) We find out next week that James gets kicked off the jury 'cause he's going to get surgeryowned. Erik loses immunity and is booted. In the finale, after a 40-minute recrap, Amanda wins immunity and Natalie gets voted out. Then, in the F3 IC, Amanda pwns again, Cirie is voted out, and the F2 is Amanda/Parv. Through some combination of votes, Parvati wins. The end.
ProbstFan123		#4049	[-]
Posts: 10036 (05/02/08 9:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sounds about right. Except you forgot to mention Cirie winning $100,000 at the reunion show for being the most popular contestant (in other words, the person everyone wanted to win but didn't, so here's a consolation prize to appease the viewing audience). Last Edited By: ProbstFan123 05/02/08 10:07 PM. Edited 1 times.
Relynn		#4050	[-]
Posts: 418 (05/02/08 9:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Even I kind of think Parv wins although I'm rooting for Amanda..
urrout		#4051	[-]
Posts: 1589 (05/02/08 9:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GodIsAnAtheist wrote: NOV1962 wrote: Did anyone not watch the show???? I could tell at tribal council that Cirie knew about the idol, because of the smug look she had on her face and the smiles back/forth between them and the hand holding...... It's not about what you know, or what you think you know. It's what was shown in the show. It was edited, regardless of whether you could interpret some super-subtle clue to the contrary, to show Cirie as an outsider to the plan. PERIOD. It also showed her being loyal to Amanda and finally willing to risk herself by voting to tie (she may not have meant it). It showed that she had thought things through and decided sometimes you have to do something you don't want to do (boot Amanda) to protect yourself. Even if Cirie had forced a tie, that put all 3 of them in danger of being evicted by pulling the purple rock, not just Cirie. Odds are one of A/P/C would have been gone. I would not blame Cirie for doing what she was planning on doing if I were on the jury. An alliance doesn't mean throw yourself into the fire for someone else. It is only to share info and protect each other as long as you can. Has anybody checked out that seen for edits to see if Cirie asked Amanda if she wanted a tie after Cirie knew about the idol? I remember it came out of nowhere and was surprised she asked. One minute she didn't want a tie and suddenly she asked Amanda what should she do.
racedude122003		#4052	[-]
Posts: 462 (05/02/08 10:01 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why is everyone still thinking there's an F2? I just don't understand....
GodIsAnAtheist		#4053	[-]
Posts: 3498 (05/02/08 10:31 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: It also showed her being loyal to Amanda and finally willing to risk herself by voting to tie (she may not have meant it). It showed that she had thought things through and decided sometimes you have to do something you don't want to do (boot Amanda) to protect yourself. Even if Cirie had forced a tie, that put all 3 of them in danger of being evicted by pulling the purple rock, not just Cirie. Odds are one of A/P/C would have been gone. I would not blame Cirie for doing what she was planning on doing if I were on the jury. An alliance doesn't mean throw yourself into the fire for someone else. It is only to share info and protect each other as long as you can. Has anybody checked out that seen for edits to see if Cirie asked Amanda if she wanted a tie after Cirie knew about the idol? I remember it came out of nowhere and was surprised she asked. One minute she didn't want a tie and suddenly she asked Amanda what should she do. Um, it actually showed her being DISLOYAL to Amanda. Granted, she absolutely made the correct choice (regardless of whether Lividmanda had the HII or not), but there is no gray area in loyalty. You either are or you aren't. We don't know (other than through Insider) that Cirie knew about the idol. Therefore, there is no "edit" that you speak of. The "edit" is that Cirie turned on Amanda (rightly so or otherwise being irrelevant) and got Lividolpwned indirectly.
Relynn		#4054	[-]
Posts: 420 (05/02/08 10:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I thought Cirie was edited negatively, even though I don't blame her at all for going for the tie vote.. I thought she was edited negatively, when she talked about well so they are injured, it's two more people I don't have to vote for. I think when it comes to game play, Cirie is more cuthroat than Pavarti. Although Pavarti, I guess makes tighter bonds.. Then, again Cirie is married has kids. Seeing as Cirie said Amanda would be tough for me and Pavarti go up against, maybe Cirie would vote for Parv over Amanda (but we will see) Personally? I think that if Pavarti loses this game, it won't be so much that she backstabbed two many people, but rather that she brought Amanda to the end (or didn't conspire against her) I wonder if there is a reasoning, they kept in Eliza's "they bring a more likeable person to the end." And honestly, I don't think it's fair to criticize Amanda's game play. Amanda is an excellant player, the girl made is set to make it to the end twice, and she managed to make it to the end, with two drasticaly situations. According to Alexix, Amanda spent the whole day bawling before the tribal council, so everyone was snookered. And everyone complains about her doe eyes, but if you notice, she's taken to smirking more when people are voted off (the Alexis vote, the Jason vote etc)
taigark		#4055	[-]
Posts: 321 (05/02/08 11:05 PM) Hey! I kinda like it here! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	racedude122003 wrote: Why is everyone still thinking there's an F2? I just don't understand.... Not too sure, but I think they thought that James and Alexis weren't on the jury. Could b something else, though.
urrout		#4056	[-]
Posts: 1591 (05/02/08 11:13 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In her confessionals she said she didn't want Amanda to go. She also asked Amanda if she wanted a tie after saying she didn't want to cause one before because she is unlucky which is the part I was wondering about the editing. It showed, in the end, she was willing to be loyal even if it could hurt her game. She is only negative if you forget they are playing a game for a million. If she doesn't have to vote for them then she may not lose their jury votes is what she meant. Why is it not fair to criticize their game play? Amanda is only still there because Alexis stupidly sent her to EI (should have sent Parvati, imo) and then the idol was not on EI so the others did not know she had it. It was Alexis' mistake, not Amanda's own strategy. Did Alexis not have a 2nd target after Eric? If it was Amanda, why send her? Why was it necessary to bawl all day anyway? They checked her bag and she didn't have the idol so she was safe. Act upset, keep asking for votes, etc., but no need to bawl. Why make everyone feel miserable when they are just playing a game? They told her upfont she was going because she was a jury and challenge threat. One of the women had to go and Amanda was the best choice. Maybe she shouldn't have made herself to be such a threat for jury votes that they want her gone? Is that playing a good game? You are not supposed to make such a big target of yourself. Right now she made a very prominent display at TC which will make her an even bigger target. And throwing in that she didn't lie earlier about having the idol was also dumb, imo. All she had to do was play the idol with no gimmicks or hoopla.
Relynn		#4057	[-]
Posts: 421 (05/02/08 11:20 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: In her confessionals she said she didn't want Amanda to go. She also asked Amanda if she wanted a tie after saying she didn't want to cause one before because she is unlucky which is the part I was wondering about the editing. It showed, in the end, she was willing to be loyal even if it could hurt her game. She is only negative if you forget they are playing a game for a million. If she doesn't have to vote for them then she may not lose their jury votes is what she meant. Why is it not fair to criticize their game play? Amanda is only still there because Alexis stupidly sent her to EI (should have sent Parvati, imo) and then the idol was not on EI so the others did not know she had it. It was Alexis' mistake, not Amanda's own strategy. Did Alexis not have a 2nd target after Eric? If it was Amanda, why send her? Why was it necessary to bawl all day anyway? They checked her bag and she didn't have the idol so she was safe. Act upset, keep asking for votes, etc., but no need to bawl. Why make everyone feel miserable when they are just playing a game? They told her upfont she was going because she was a jury and challenge threat. One of the women had to go and Amanda was the best choice. Maybe she shouldn't have made herself to be such a threat for jury votes that they want her gone? Is that playing a good game? You are not supposed to make such a big target of yourself. Right now she made a very prominent display at TC which will make her an even bigger target. And throwing in that she didn't lie earlier about having the idol was also dumb, imo. All she had to do was play the idol with no gimmicks or hoopla. If Amanda wasn't scrambling they might have thought something was up. Honestly, they should have wondered if something was up, as soon as Amanda said that she didn't have the HI idol. At that point in the game, (when they might vote for me anyways) I'd try to let them think I have it, so that they might target someone else. By telling them, I'll DEFINETLY use it next tribal council.
urrout		#4058	[-]
Posts: 1593 (05/02/08 11:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Scrambling yes, and I said that but bawling wasn't needed. They would have checked her bag. They would have gone for a split vote if they thought she may have it and she still would have had to play it to protect herself. They would want to force her to play it to take it out of the game. It also would put Cerie in danger for no reason. Pretending to have the idol would have been the worse move for her to make, imo.
JTill is MY H3RO		#4059	[-]
Posts: 43 (05/02/08 11:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GodIsAnAtheist wrote: NOV1962 wrote: Did anyone not watch the show???? I could tell at tribal council that Cirie knew about the idol, because of the smug look she had on her face and the smiles back/forth between them and the hand holding...... It's not about what you know, or what you think you know. It's what was shown in the show. It was edited, regardless of whether you could interpret some super-subtle clue to the contrary, to show Cirie as an outsider to the plan. PERIOD. On the contrary, I feel the show was edited, especially near the end, JUST for suspense. Yes, us spoiler readers knew that Amanda finds the idol...but the producers obviously wanted the episode to be edited in a way so that we didn't know whether she did or not until TC, and didn't really know who was going home. IF they would have shown Amanda telling Cirie about the idol, making her an "insider on the plan," then there would have been no suspense, no drama. We'd be like, oh, so Alexis is gone. When Amanda spoke to Cirie about who she was voting for, she hadn't found the idol yet...she wasn't sure if she was going to find it. IMO, the editors went out of their way with this scene to show Cirie in a better light. Obviously, we all see that she is making the right choice...the ONLY logical choice, and she was being upfront and honest not only to Amanda, but in her confessionals. And according to spoilers/rumors, Cirie WAS told about the plan and the idol...but, again, if we were shown this, the episode would have had no suspense, especially at TC. We would all have known from the get go that Alexis was a goner.
Relynn		#4060	[-]
Posts: 423 (05/02/08 11:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think Cirie was negative for voting out Amanda either, although I do think the comments about the injuries were negative. I wouldn't say that Alexis might vote Pavarti, according to an interview, Alexis says she's going to base her vote no who will do the most good with the money. And Pavarti is a charity organizer.

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