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Katy Carney		#3321	[-]
Posts: 937 (04/25/08 1:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I am more convinced than ever that it is an Amanda/Parvati F2. I think it makes sense because that's the only way I can see Parvati winning. Amanda will collect all the bitter men votes that weren't ever going to vote for Parvati anyway, but at least Parvati can argue for the respect vote. That would be much harder to do against Cirie, who would get all of the anyone-but-Parvati votes and could argue for the respect votes. Parvati is lucky that the jury is mostly women, since they will be able to identify more with her reasoning than the guys who believe they are entitled to win because of all the clams they caught or whatever.
roxbury123		#3322	[-]
Posts: 225 (04/25/08 1:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	this is funny since when did Pavarti start of the Ozzy and Jason boots. Hello we all saw it was Cirie's idea to boot Ozzy, and NAtalie got the credit for Jason. Stop seeing what you want to see. All Pavarti is doing is getting people mad. Pavarti backstabbed people, and never made any of the moves. She is taking all the bullets for plans that were not hers. She is an IDIOT!
Katy Carney		#3323	[-]
Posts: 938 (04/25/08 1:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The idea that it was Cirie's brilliant strategy to get rid of Ozzy is a myth perpetuated by Cirie's more hardcore fans. Ozzy was dead to Parvati before the merge, back when she recruited Alexis and Natalie so she could dump Ozzy and James. Cirie literally did one thing, and that's say "this would be a prime opportunity", which Alexis parrotted. Hey maybe Alexis is a strategic genius too!!! ZOMG! Natalie's brilliant plan to get rid of Jason was really just some overly complicated scheme to counter the stupidity of her sending him to exile in the first place. She was going to get Jason to throw immunity for whatever reason (he didnt') and then hope he didn't play his idol (he didn't). That's not a plan, that's wishful thinking that happened to work out.
IluvGoddessCirie		#3324	[-]
Posts: 190 (04/25/08 1:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Umm, Natalie should definitely get the most credit for the Jason boot because she was the one who lulled him into a false sense of security. And we saw Cirie insisting that the votes should be split (which they were) to ensure that James went if Jason played the idol. Both Cirie and Parvati were equally smart to go along with the boot. James, Erik and Amanda (less so Amanda, because she's in the girls alliance and has a sub alliance with Cirie and Parv.) are dumb as hell for not teaming up with Jason on this one to change up the game.
GrenadeJumper85		#3325	[-]
Posts: 4394 (04/25/08 2:06 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The idea that it was Cirie's brilliant strategy to get rid of Ozzy is a myth perpetuated by Cirie's more hardcore fans. You're clearly suffering from some revisionist history. Why did they show us Cirie on Exile Island last episode being the voice behind getting Ozzy out, then back at camp she was the one that brought it up to the women, sans Amanda. Parvati was merely the swing vote during that entire thing. It's interesting that they edited her as the one that was to blame for it. Either she gets it from Ozzy at the end, or he rewards her for it.
gretchensucks		#3326	[-]
Posts: 384 (04/25/08 2:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: The idea that it was Cirie's brilliant strategy to get rid of Ozzy is a myth perpetuated by Cirie's more hardcore fans. Ozzy was dead to Parvati before the merge, back when she recruited Alexis and Natalie so she could dump Ozzy and James. Cirie literally did one thing, and that's say "this would be a prime opportunity", which Alexis parrotted. Hey maybe Alexis is a strategic genius too!!! ZOMG! Natalie's brilliant plan to get rid of Jason was really just some overly complicated scheme to counter the stupidity of her sending him to exile in the first place. She was going to get Jason to throw immunity for whatever reason (he didnt') and then hope he didn't play his idol (he didn't). That's not a plan, that's wishful thinking that happened to work out. Editing aside, you're ignoring (1) the fact that Cirie was targeting Ozzy before the merge (comments to Amanda, calling him a threat in confessionals, saying she would eventually "dismantle" the couples from the second episode), (2) that Cirie was shown on exile island saying she was going to get rid of Ozzy because she now knew he had the idol. To discount Cirie's part in the planning of the Ozzy boot is just being ignorant.
craig		#3327	[-]
Posts: 12927 (04/25/08 2:09 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Based on Jason interviews and this week's clues, I'm thinking the F7 might go like this: 7 James - injured 6 Alexis - idoled by Amanda, faves take control 5 Erik - finally loses immunity 4 Natalie - Parv wins immunity and "betrays" her 3 Cirie - 1 vote from Eliza (or booted if there is F2) 2 Amanda - 3 votes from Ozzy, James, and Erik 1 Parvati - 3 New Airai votes from Jason, Alexis, and Nat, plus Eliza's tiebreaker. Jason thinks Natalie has a crush on Parv. Alexis is Myspace friends with Parv but not Cirie. Both fan girls got further because of Parv, they knew she was planning the Ozzy boot from before the merge. Jason has he'll vote for the person who got Ozzy and him out. His voting confessional last night was something like "Well James, Parvati got you." Eliza will aslo respect Parv for her role in the Ozzy's boot, and won't vote for someone "boring and pageant." That's my best guess for now. Parvati gets the mastermind cred and New Airai friends, Amanda gets the loyalist Couples and New Malakal vote. Cirie is caught in the middle like Amanda last season. Last Edited By: craig 04/25/08 2:18 PM. Edited 3 times.
kdo2		#3328	[-]
Posts: 540 (04/25/08 2:15 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	nvm Last Edited By: kdo2 04/25/08 2:19 PM. Edited 1 times.
gretchensucks		#3329	[-]
Posts: 386 (04/25/08 2:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: Based on Jason interviews and this week's clues, I'm thinking the F7 might go like this: 7 James - injured 6 Alexis - idoled by Amanda, faves take control 5 Erik - finally loses immunity 4 Natalie - Parv wins immunity and "betrays" her 3 Cirie - 1 vote from Eliza (or booted if there is F2) 2 Amanda - 3 votes from Ozzy, James, and Erik 1 Parvati - 3 New Airai votes from Jason, Alexis, anmd Nat, plus Eliza's tiebreaker. Jason thinks Natalie has a crush on Parv. Alexis is Myspace friends with Parv but not Cirie. Both fan girls got further because of Parv, they knew she was planning the Ozzy boot from before the merge. Jason has he'll vote for the person who got Ozzy and him out. His voting confessional last night was something like "Well James, Parvati got you." Eliza will aslo respect Parv for her role in the Ozzy's boot, and won't vote for someone "boring and pageant." That's my best guess for now. Parvati gets the mastermind cred and New Airai friends, Amanda gets the loyalist Couples and New Malakal vote. Cirie is caught in the middle like Amanda last season. I don't think Eliza will be voting for Parvati...that's not how she rolls. She didn't vote for Twila, and Twila tormented her in the same way Parvati did. I also have doubts that Jason would actually vote for Parvati, she was pretty mean to him. If Parvati screws Natalie, or Alexis...neither will vote for her. I don't see Natalie rolling that way especially. Also, if F2 - Cirie will vote Amanda.
crzypunk2004		#3330	[-]
Posts: 3305 (04/25/08 2:20 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If it's a Cirie/Parv/Amanda F3 facing the Jury, the only votes that are locked (to me) will be James/Ozzy for Amanda and Eliza for Cirie,The fans will be the deciding votes.IF Nat gets blindsided, I really think she will be pissed especially with last night's edit. Jason doesn't seem like he was close with parv. It will either be 4-2-1 with Parv or Cirie winning and Amanda coming in second. Last Edited By: crzypunk2004 04/25/08 2:22 PM. Edited 1 times.
FranklinBluth		#3331	[-]
Posts: 1536 (04/25/08 2:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In one of the insider videos, Jason said he got close to Cirie and Alexis. No mention of Parvati or Amanda. The more I think about it, Amanda just sucks at getting jury votes because she's not friendly with people outside of her alliance.
GodIsAnAtheist		#3332	[-]
Posts: 3319 (04/25/08 3:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think after this episode, it's safe to say that Parvati wins, with no chance of Alexis or Cirie winning. If Cirie was the mastermind of the Ozzy boot, and got ZERO credit, you know bitch don't win.
Katy Carney		#3333	[-]
Posts: 939 (04/25/08 3:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gretchensucks wrote: Katy Carney wrote: The idea that it was Cirie's brilliant strategy to get rid of Ozzy is a myth perpetuated by Cirie's more hardcore fans. Ozzy was dead to Parvati before the merge, back when she recruited Alexis and Natalie so she could dump Ozzy and James. Cirie literally did one thing, and that's say "this would be a prime opportunity", which Alexis parrotted. Hey maybe Alexis is a strategic genius too!!! ZOMG! Natalie's brilliant plan to get rid of Jason was really just some overly complicated scheme to counter the stupidity of her sending him to exile in the first place. She was going to get Jason to throw immunity for whatever reason (he didnt') and then hope he didn't play his idol (he didn't). That's not a plan, that's wishful thinking that happened to work out. Editing aside, you're ignoring (1) the fact that Cirie was targeting Ozzy before the merge (comments to Amanda, calling him a threat in confessionals, saying she would eventually "dismantle" the couples from the second episode), (2) that Cirie was shown on exile island saying she was going to get rid of Ozzy because she now knew he had the idol. To discount Cirie's part in the planning of the Ozzy boot is just being ignorant. I'm not discounting her part in it, I'm just not giving her credit she doesn't deserve. I could easily see Eliza voting for Parvati to win over Amanda. I also think people overhype the bitter juror shit. Sure, some people hold grudges and hate to lose and stomp around like children (ozzy) but some people actually can vote for the person that beat them.
FranklinBluth		#3334	[-]
Posts: 1537 (04/25/08 3:33 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But my question is, GIAA, why would they bother showing Cirie on Exile Island plotting against him and having her be the one to bring it up in the previews the episode before? It seems to me like Parvati wins, but I'm trying to play devil's advocate to understand some stuff. It just doesn't add up.
ZeWish		#3335	[-]
Posts: 236 (04/25/08 3:43 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	i think we saw cirie on exile because she did plan the move and was responsible for Ozzy's blindside. Parvati was given credit because she will take the fall for it. Remember Danni bringing up the idea of getting rid of Judd and how Stephenie took the fall even though she was more of a swing vote, like parvati. I still feel that it will come down to Parvati and Cirie and Parvati will take the fall like Stephenie did.
gretchensucks		#3336	[-]
Posts: 393 (04/25/08 3:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: gretchensucks wrote: Katy Carney wrote: The idea that it was Cirie's brilliant strategy to get rid of Ozzy is a myth perpetuated by Cirie's more hardcore fans. Ozzy was dead to Parvati before the merge, back when she recruited Alexis and Natalie so she could dump Ozzy and James. Cirie literally did one thing, and that's say "this would be a prime opportunity", which Alexis parrotted. Hey maybe Alexis is a strategic genius too!!! ZOMG! Natalie's brilliant plan to get rid of Jason was really just some overly complicated scheme to counter the stupidity of her sending him to exile in the first place. She was going to get Jason to throw immunity for whatever reason (he didnt') and then hope he didn't play his idol (he didn't). That's not a plan, that's wishful thinking that happened to work out. Editing aside, you're ignoring (1) the fact that Cirie was targeting Ozzy before the merge (comments to Amanda, calling him a threat in confessionals, saying she would eventually "dismantle" the couples from the second episode), (2) that Cirie was shown on exile island saying she was going to get rid of Ozzy because she now knew he had the idol. To discount Cirie's part in the planning of the Ozzy boot is just being ignorant. I'm not discounting her part in it, I'm just not giving her credit she doesn't deserve. I could easily see Eliza voting for Parvati to win over Amanda. I also think people overhype the bitter juror shit. Sure, some people hold grudges and hate to lose and stomp around like children (ozzy) but some people actually can vote for the person that beat them. See, the thing is, Eliza has already proven to be a (very) bitter juror. i.e. in Vanuatu.
Katy Carney		#3337	[-]
Posts: 940 (04/25/08 3:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Eliza and Parvati don't have the kind of relationship that Eliza and Twila had. It wasn't anywhere near as volatile. And when the alternative is someone like Amanda, whom Eliza also didn't like, I don't see why she wouldn't.
gretchensucks		#3338	[-]
Posts: 395 (04/25/08 3:53 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I see the Twila/Eliza relationship as very similar to the Parvati/Eliza relationship. Both were a thorn in Eliza's side through the entire game. The point is, she's proven a bitter juror in the past and there's no reason to think she'll be anything else this time around. Also, did you notice the sweet look she gave Amanda last night when Amanda was going to vote? I'm not an Amanda fan...I can't stand her actually. I'm just stating the obvious.
GodIsAnAtheist		#3339	[-]
Posts: 3321 (04/25/08 3:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	FranklinBluth wrote: But my question is, GIAA, why would they bother showing Cirie on Exile Island plotting against him and having her be the one to bring it up in the previews the episode before? It seems to me like Parvati wins, but I'm trying to play devil's advocate to understand some stuff. It just doesn't add up. She was the one who mentioned the plan, but it was Parvati and her connections which were able to execute the plan. More to the point, if you aren't given credit AT ALL in the next episode for your (supposedly) brilliant plan (even a bitter confessional about how no one gives her credit would be better than NOTHING), then you are fucked. Parvati wins. Let's all try to get on the same page now.
Cole		#3340	[-]
Posts: 470 (04/25/08 4:01 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	jffhrdy17 wrote: Parvati improved her social skills. I remember in the Eliza boot episode, Jeff mentioned someone good physically (focus on Ozzy), mentally (Eliza), socially (Parvati) That was actually Alexis who pointed all that out.

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