-Aaron (China) Getting eliminated because everybody else throws an immunity challenge, and there is nothing you can do
-Michael/Bruce/Jonathan/Gary-Eliminated by injury.
-Jenny (CI)-twist 1
-Michelle (Fiji)-twist 2
-JP/Cao Boi/Margaret/Willard-Getting voted out, even though your tribe won immunity.
-Tracy-Fate is sealed, because both of your allies quit on you.
-Runner-up- So close...yet so far.
-Jessie/Ramona/Tanya -Mercy vote.
-Jeff (Australia)-Getting eliminated, because your tribemate couldn't keep her mouth shut.
-Paschal -Purple Rock
-Jenna (Borneo) Getting voted out because of stupid alphabet strategy.
-Getting blindsided - multiple contestants.
-Kelly (Africa) getting voted out for wrong accusation/plus a stupid move by another tribemate.
-Being the first one voted off.
-Wanda/Jonathan - Being eliminated and not getting voted off.
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Posts: 835 (03/24/08 3:13 PM) |
seltzer3 wrote: Jeffs interference aided in this, so id say tahts the worst. |
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Posts: 14955 (03/24/08 3:26 PM) Registered user |
I'm not that much of an Aaron fan, but I can't think of anyone who got screwed over worst than he did. At least in every other situation you can
somewhat make a case that the person could've handled the situation differently and thus they are ultimately responsable for their own fate. But Aaron was
basically a sacrificial lamb given to John Hu. Like a frickin' pig with its legs tied and an apple in his mouth. And he actually had a really good game
going on before this happened, so you can't even say he was on his way out sooner than later.
I mean, there's been countless tribal swaps, switches, twists, etc. But usually they are usually random and affect people in different ways. This one was just ridiculous. In short, "we are giving you the 2 strongest people from the other tribe.....*MS office paper clip* may I suggest you throw the challenge and get rid of them to even things out?" |
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Michelle - Fiji.
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Posts: 2048 (03/24/08 5:24 PM) Registered user |
Jenna (Borneo) Getting voted out because of stupid alphabet strategy.But she was gone soon (next) even without the alphabet strategy, so all it really did was cost her one round. I agree that the worst ones are the ones due to "rule changes" such as Michelle or Jenny. I would also say Liliana except that she, like the rest, voted to take the shelter over Immunity. Aaron was screwed by the challenge throw, but technicially one might argue that he could have lobbied to point the ax at James instead of himself, so at least he had SOME chance to work for himself, but others in other situations had none. |
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Posts: 338 (03/24/08 5:25 PM) |
Michelle should have stayed at that tc, but she got screwed over by the first of Dreamz being Dreamz. (The way it was edited shows that Alex told him to do
that, but it's pretty obvious that everyone was asked the exact same question about everyone else. This is just getting blindsided, and it is her own fault
for leaving by not connecting with Dreamz enough. She at least had a chance.
Being blindsided is the best way to leave because usually it shows that you are a threat or you are just getting outplayed which is much better than getting screwed over by a twist. Silas got screwed over the worst out of anybody because nothing out of the ordinary had ever happened. Second would be either Shii Ann or Jenny. While close behind is Bobby Jon in Palau for losing a challenge, Shawn for the outcast twist, and Bobby Jon again in Guatemala for being the first screwed over by the idol. EDIT-the end of my thing about Michelle got cut off.
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Posts: 8663 (03/24/08 5:30 PM) Registered User |
Michelle did have a shot at staying. Dreamz voted against her because of the answer she gave in response to "why would you vote out Dreamz?"
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Posts: 14957 (03/24/08 5:36 PM) Registered user |
I can understand how some people say Silas got screwed (giggle at the irony) because it was the first time they threw a switch. But case in point, he went out
of his way to be a dick to Frank and Teresa and it came back to bite him in the ass. Savvy players try to get on everyone's good side, not just secure
themselves in an alliance and tell everyone else who isn't part of it to FOAD.
ShiiAnn getting screwed by the fake merge......I don't think we can beat that horse anymore now because its bones have dissolved to dust. ShiiAnn was a horrible, horrible player. She made shitloads of mistakes and that fake merge finally spelled the end for her. Her delusional fans think she would have won had it been a normal merge. Yeah right, CG would've used her to boot Penny, then returned the favor the next TC by booting her. People were extremely conservative in that season, no way in hell would they had let a flipper continue. That's all there is to it, stop deying it. |
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Posts: 340 (03/24/08 5:48 PM) |
WylDawg wrote: No one said that Silas was a good player. The fact of the matter was that he was in complete control of his tribe, and he got put with the 2 people who
hated him. If anyone of Lindsey, Brandon, or Kim switched spots with him, he would still have made the merge.
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Posts: 319 (03/24/08 6:09 PM) Registered user |
Thailandsurvivor wrote: Not true...Silas and Lindsey were both fucked at the swap if they were on opposing teams. Lets say Lindsey goes to Boran and Silas stays on Samburu.
Teresa/Frank would still get the message across that Silas has previous votes and Lex/Tom/Kelly would force the same tie they did with Lindsey.
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Posts: 343 (03/24/08 6:17 PM) |
SurvivorNinja wrote: Oh I forgot when he told the old guys to send their votes to Lindsey, my bad.
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Posts: 320 (03/24/08 6:23 PM) Registered user |
Willard wouldn't not have gone to TC if not for the Double TC..he would have made it much farther. He was screwed by a double TC...every other double TC the person voted out had a shot at some sort of immunity whether by winning or it being given to them..Jenny and Willard are the only exceptions...i'm sure both could have tried to talk their way out of it..but nonetheless..both were screwed. |
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Posts: 2267 (03/24/08 6:24 PM) Registered User |
Michelle definitely. Swap her out for Yau-Man or Earl, they would have been screwed also. Well maybe not Earl. He had that blackpowa alliance from day 1.
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Posts: 8664 (03/24/08 7:07 PM) Registered User |
And I am no Shii Ann fan. I hated her in both seasons, but she positioned herself so that three people would leave before her on Sook Jai. At the merge, all she had to do was switch and could have made it much further than being a 5th wheel. Yeah, she might have left next anyways, but since the late merge occured, she had 0 chance to save herself.Swapping over would have made her a 6th wheel instead of a 5th. It was just stupid. Plus, she had Ken telling her that they needed to wait and get a majority before booting Erin/Penny. I think Ken wanted a him/Shii/Jake final 3, and it could have happened if Shii Ann didn't act like an idiot. |
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Paschal.
They might as well have played scissors-paper-rock than that fucked up purple rock it ruined the marquesas |
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Posts: 37 (03/24/08 9:11 PM) Registered User |
Defo Michelle, and MAYBE Jenny, although in that case her situation wasn't THAT much more unfair than a double TC--regardless she had a chance to cement a
position in her tribe, whereas Michelle was set up with a random group of people without getting any real chance to suss out the dynamics. Other than that, I
personally don't think there have been that many unfair twists; if you're a good enough player you should generally be flexible enough to push the
target onto someone else despite changing circumstances.
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Posts: 936 (03/24/08 9:13 PM) Registered user |
- Shii Ann was dumb. Her exit was coming soon, fake merge or not. Anyway, why didn't she see the absence of new buffs?
- Aaron could have made a deal with Jaime when she was kidnapped instead of ignoring her. He could have been more convincing with ZH. - Michelle only had to say: "I don't want to vote out Dreamz. Cassandra and Earl have said nice things about him." - Willard wasn't winning any immunity and had plenty of time to talk his way out of being first on the block. - I think the bottle twist was one of the worst but the fact remains that Jenny was next on the block because of her own actions. - Shawn was voted out only because of the fear of Burton's return but Shawn was a dumbass who marginalized himself in the tribe. - For the ones voted out, can I propose Jerri in ASS? She was the victim of one of the dumbest votes ever that occured after one of the stupidest switches ever. She had done almost everything right. How far does she go if there was simply a merge? In my eyes however, the worst way to go out was Bruce and Jonathan. Survivor is a game, not real life until it becomes a matter of life and death. (Although Bruce's amazing T-shirt water filtration device could have had something to do with his problem)
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Posts: 14962 (03/24/08 9:22 PM) Registered user |
Swapping over would have made her a 6th wheel instead of a 5th. It was just stupid. Plus, she had Ken telling her that they needed to wait and get a majority before booting Erin/Penny. I think Ken wanted a him/Shii/Jake final 3, and it could have happened if Shii Ann didn't act like an idiot. Finally someone gets it. I'm tired of her fans saying she was the winner-to-be but got screwed by the fake merge. Next time, she just needs to keep her mouth shut and wait until it's safe to make a move. |
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Posts: 608 (07/24/35 2:06 PM) Registered User |
I completely agree with the statement about Kelly G. There isn't anyone else's boot in the history of survivor that I have been more upset about, and
I believe she was royally screwed by terrible, terrible gameplay. To be targeted in the first place was completely out of nowhere and a horrible move by Lex
in the first place, and even worse for Kim J to go along with it... retarded for Tom and Ethan too. Top it off, Brandon was way too much of a queen to see
that he needed to work with Frank to have any chance at winning the game. So many factors that went wrong... Kelly and Teresa were amazing players that got
screwed over by so many idiotic moves.
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Posts: 609 (03/24/08 9:29 PM) Registered User |
Woah, weird, I went into the future 27 years! :-) :-P
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Posts: 325 (03/24/08 9:57 PM) Registered user |
Not true...Willard could have won a puzzle challenge..you can't count anyone out of any challenge except Scout in everything. Also Immunity could have been given to him. While I agree that a good player should be able to get out of a crappy situation if they don't have immunity..everyone should have chance for Immunity first...and Willard did not get a chance. |
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