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No all those people you mentioned chose to work with those people but they could easily have chosen others to work with. Tina absolutely needed Colby to help her out. Parvati needed Amanda, but I'd say she rode on Ozzy's coattails more.

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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:

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That completely would undermine the concept(If a non winner is a better player then the winner). You're undermining Tina's social game. She was more respected then Colby because she made... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Xyston) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5308089 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:25:10 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5308044/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5308044 Xyston wrote:

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No all those people you mentioned chose to work with those people but they could easily have chosen others to work with. Tina absolutely needed Colby to help her out. Parvati needed Amanda, but I'd say she rode on Ozzy's coattails more.

Tina had Keith and Elisabeth in her backpocket also, as well as Amber through fear and Rodger by proxy. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5308044 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:13:04 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5308038/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5308038 Xyston wrote:

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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:

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That completely would undermine the concept(If a non winner is a better player then the winner). You're undermining Tina's social game. She was more respected then Colby because she made all of the decisions. Only two people on the jury voted for Colby because they truly considered him the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5308038 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:11:21 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5308030/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5308030 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Xyston) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5308030 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:09:34 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307995/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307995 Xyston wrote:

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I don't consider myself a Tina fan at all. I'm just looking at the game. Colby was with Jerri and Amber, and Tina got him to vote out Mitchell, and pulled him away from the two girls, which got the alliance of Tina, Colby, and Keith together. She had the great idea of getting Colby to lie to Jerri, telling... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ilovekelly752) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307995 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:03:16 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307932/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307932 ilovekelly752 wrote:

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I don't consider myself a Tina fan at all. I'm just looking at the game. Colby was with Jerri and Amber, and Tina got him to vote out Mitchell, and pulled him away from the two girls, which got the alliance of Tina, Colby, and Keith together. She had the great idea of getting Colby to lie to Jerri, telling her he was still on her side so that she wouldn't flip. Colby never planned to go... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Xyston) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307932 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:46:30 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307922/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307922 Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:

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That completely would undermine the concept(If a non winner is a better player then the winner). You're undermining Tina's social game. She was more respected then Colby because she made all of the decisions. Only two people on the jury voted for Colby because they truly considered him the better player(Amber voted somewhat out of spite).

And off topic, the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Xyston) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307922 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:44:19 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307920/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307920 Xyston wrote:

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ilovekelly752 wrote:

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Colby rode Tina's coattails in more of a strategic way. She manipulated him by pulling him away from Jerri and the final two deal she approached him with was what got him to take her to the end over Keith. She also had more control over the votes, because when he wanted Roger out, and she wanted Amber out, she just got... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ilovekelly752) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307920 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:43:25 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307896/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307896 Xyston wrote:

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When you win it doesn't mean you were the strategic mastermind or played a better social game than your opponent. All it means is that you had more people wanting to vote for you in the jury. Tina still rode coattails and she benefited off of Colby's decision to take her to the end instead of Keith. It's like how Bob stumbled into victory based off Sugar's... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307896 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:38:09 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307860/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307860 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Xyston) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307860 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:27:47 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307818/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307818 Xyston wrote:

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ilovekelly752 wrote:

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Colby rode Tina's coattails in more of a strategic way. She manipulated him by pulling him away from Jerri and the final two deal she approached him with was what got him to take her to the end over Keith. She also had more control over the votes, because when he wanted Roger out, and she wanted Amber out, she just got... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307818 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:16:28 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307802/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307802 Xyston wrote:

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Riding coattails is letting somebody do all the hard work for you. Nobody's talking about making no decisions on your own. Everybody makes their own decisions. Nobody is so manipulated that they cannot think for themselves. Colby just thought he could win against Tina. She didn't do anything to him. He has said himself that he wanted to take Tina over Keith... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307802 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:13:22 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307793/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307793 ilovekelly752 wrote:

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Colby rode Tina's coattails in more of a strategic way. She manipulated him by pulling him away from Jerri and the final two deal she approached him with was what got him to take her to the end over Keith. She also had more control over the votes, because when he wanted Roger out, and she wanted Amber out, she just got Roger, Elisabeth, and Keith to vote out Amber, she was the one people like Elisabeth... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Xyston) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307793 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:11:53 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307765/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307765 Riding coattails is letting somebody do all the hard work for you. Nobody's talking about making no decisions on your own. Everybody makes their own decisions. Nobody is so manipulated that they cannot think for themselves. Colby just thought he could win against Tina. She didn't do anything to him. He has said himself that he wanted to take Tina over Keith because she was more deserving. I think that's stupid personally... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Xyston) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307765 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:05:46 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307763/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307763 Xyston wrote:

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All of the voting decisions? Correct me if I'm wrong but Tina had no control over Jerri, Amber, and Mitchell's votes. Colby had all the options and it was his decision. It was also Colby's decision at final 3. It's clear from your exaggerations that you're just drinking some kool aid though so I'm not even going to bother discussing this anymore with you.

Or it... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dr Will Hatch two point oh) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307763 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:05:29 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307766/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307766 feeds@yuku.com (ilovekelly752) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307766 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:05:00 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5307727/t/Winner-Analysis.html#reply-5307727 feeds@yuku.com (PrettyGoodYear1988) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/5307727 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:54:25 GMT http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/875/t/Winner-Analysis.html
Newest Update
I didn't do an in-depth analysis like I used to for the newer seasons, but I thought I'd go ahead and update this based on my general intuition about the new crop of winners:

1. James "J.T." Thomas, Jr.
2. Parvati Shallow
3. Yul Kwon

4. Todd Herzog
5. Earl Cole
6. Danni Boatwright
7. Chris Daughtery

8. Jenna Morasca
9. Tom Westman

10. Aras Baskauskas
11.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (RavuRules) http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/875 Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:08:36 GMT