Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

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feeds@yuku.com (survivorjb2003) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:39:59 GMT

Monsieur Muggles wrote:
And that is why the straights will never understand gays like you.

Really? Because my straight friends say they like my sense of humor and like me more than other gays they've met. I don't get all up in arms if someone slips out "that's so gay" and I don't take myself so seriously.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (Monsieur Muggles) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:37:04 GMT

And that is why the straights will never understand gays like you.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (survivorjb2003) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:24:20 GMT

ObservingEgo wrote:

Yes, that ... coupled with the fact that they are no longer are mired in the immersion stage; they can have fun and be super silly ... ~~even~~ especially at their own expense.

mmhmm. I have a self-deprecating sense of humor so I always found Jack and Will's antics fun.

You could have masculine gays like...

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (ObservingEgo) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:45:52 GMT

Yes, that ... coupled with the fact that they are no longer are mired in the immersion stage; they can have fun and be super silly ... ~~even~~ especially at their own expense.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (survivorjb2003) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:55:10 GMT

ObservingEgo wrote:

My darling little gay-partnered-couple kinfolk are like the international presidents of international gay rights and policy.

And ... they love Will and Grace.

Most educated gays get what W&G was trying to do. That's probably why.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (ObservingEgo) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:53:55 GMT

My darling little gay-partnered-couple kinfolk are like the international presidents of international gay rights and policy.

And ... they love Will and Grace.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (managerr) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:46:22 GMT

I'd actually want to attend a Pride event outside the US, like in Brazil. Seems like there's less glitter and more hot guys in underwear dancing...

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (SonOfAbraxas) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:12:56 GMT

I'm okay with it too. All of my friends go, but I can't be bothered with it.

I just don't like the way the media makes these events our "face" and shows/interviews the crazies - we're not all crazy, I swear!

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (Monsieur Muggles) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:12:34 GMT

You would join in if you saw a hot guy too, wouldn't you?

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feeds@yuku.com (Pseudo Propaganda) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:10:46 GMT

Yeah but it is pretty much the same for all public parades and celebrations. I'm not really one for attending such public events but if people want to run around in their underwear throwing glitter and singing show tunes I'm OK with it.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (SonOfAbraxas) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:06:01 GMT

ScruffyGuy wrote:
Last weekend:

Gabe: "Why can't they ever show two nice, normal, masculine guys during these pride interviews?"

Mike: "Because there aren't any there."

The nice normal masuline guys are too embarassed by what happened last year to bother showing up.

Pride isn't about awareness or equal rights any longer (at least...

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (Monsieur Muggles) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:01:34 GMT

Uh, people got it by the second post. It's just PuPa was the only one to state the obvious.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (ScruffyGuy) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:42:45 GMT

Last weekend:

Gabe: "Why can't they ever show two nice, normal, masculine guys during these pride interviews?"

Mike: "Because there aren't any there."

The fact remains that Jack was still a stereotypical flouncy, mary, homo fairy and the creator guy of Will and Grace is being hypocritical.

It took 17 posts for someone to get it.

Good for you, PurpleParrot.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (khnum) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:00:49 GMT

Pseudo Propaganda wrote:
I am always mean to the ones I love

^_^

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (Monsieur Muggles) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:03:40 GMT

Aaaand experiment failed.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (managerr) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:25:52 GMT

I understand what Max is saying. People who don't know better that only see coverage of Gay pride think that all gay men are screaming queens when there's a whole lot more of us running rather bland lives.

I do too, but those people do exist and are part of the gay community. What are ya gonna do? Tell them to hide?

If everyone understood that what you see on tv news is just a sub-culture, than maybe they...

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (survivorjb2003) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:09:19 GMT

To be fair, I think Will and Grace did a lot in creating mainstream acceptance/tolerance of gay people. Look at 1997 and look where we are now. W&G is beloved by MANY straight people who ADORE Will and Jack. That was the point of the show as Max has said in interviews...and it worked.

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (Monsieur Muggles) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:00:19 GMT

[Max]Whoops...[/Max]

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (survivorjb2003) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:58:14 GMT

The Purple Parrot wrote:

survivorjb2003 wrote:
To be fair, Jack was actually entertaining. Young twinks are not.
The fact remains that Jack was still a stereotypical flouncy, mary, homo fairy and the creator guy of Will and Grace is being hypocritical.

Yes, but the POINT of Jack was to make a mockery of the stereotype,...

Re: Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (SirPaulMuaddib) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:54:08 GMT

robbiefan wrote:

ObservingEgo wrote:

Beverley Leslie lurve!!!

<33333333333 Best character on the show.

The balcony scene in series finale was...

Creator of "Will and Grace" comes out against gay stereotypes

feeds@yuku.com (Mister Yuck) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:33:27 GMT

"Dykes On Bikes, Tarzana Trannies … should no longer be representing 'the pride'"

SOUNDBITES - "Dykes on bikes, Tarzana Trannies, Jewish Leather Daddies and Kathy Griffin's mom. Don't get me wrong. I love these people. Let's call them the 'Usual Suspects.' They fought for my rights and taught me how to dance. But they should no longer be...