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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: 4/1/09 Ep11 "Whatever Happened, Happened"  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Not sure, maybe in the episode discussion thread? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Do you happen to recall where that discussion was? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, we actually talked about it a little last week. Does seem like a HUGE mistake for something accidental. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: 4/1/09 Ep11 "Whatever Happened, Happened"  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ the magic moving bullet wound...
<br>
<br>
    Maybe the Island moved the injury so that Ben could live.
<br>
<br>
  or   Darlton decided to change their storyline between the two eppys. 
<br>
<br>
<br>
  hmmm.    I&#39;m going with the first one. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: 4/1/09 Ep11 "Whatever Happened, Happened"  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ WOW!  That can&#39;t be a mistake.  The costume person would have to have really messed up and the actor playing little Ben would also have to have not said
anything like, &quot;wasn&#39;t the hole on the other side of the jacket?&quot; ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ It actually makes too much sense. It pretty much would completely explain the fertility issues with women on the island. Well, except of course why the statue
is needed in the first place. But I guess that probably has something to do with the bomb. I just hadn&#39;t heard it yet.
<br>
<br>
Also, this has probably already been mentioned here, but someone posted a discussion of it on LJ and it kind of blew my mind a little bit.
<br>
<br>
&quot;He&#39;s Our You&quot;:
<br>
<br>
<img... ]]></description>

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  <strong class="quote-title">Merrilin wrote:</strong>
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  I didn&#39;t know that was a fertility statue.
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<br>
The Egyptian fertility statue has those exact same ears and hair, and the crown. Holds the ankh in one hand and another object that resembles an ankh in the
other...has 4 toes...and has a pregnant belly. Which is why they purposefully only showed the full statue from behind?
<br>
<br>
It doesnt make any sense if that statue ISNT Taweret...the egyptian... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don&#39;t think anyone &quot;knows&quot;, it&#39;s more assumptions based on the brief glimpse that we saw. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I didn&#39;t know that was a fertility statue. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  Not necessarily. Juliet said the problem occurred at conception.
</blockquote>That&#39;s right, she did too.  So Sun may well have been doomed even if she ended up in a time before whatever force is causing pregnant women to
die was in effect.
<br>
<br>
I  never noticed that the Statue was holding anything - looks like a visit to Lostpedia is in order.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Maybe the statue was destroyed during the &quot;Incident&quot; ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Just rewatched that scene...they never look back at the statue after arriving in 1974, so it could still be there. Interesting.
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">phantomkp wrote:</strong>
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  I wonder if that Egyptian fertility statue was still standing in 1977.
  <br>
</blockquote>I <span style="font-style: italic;">THINK</span> it was gone in 1974... I think it showed the full statue after the 2nd to last flash...they
mentioned the statue and all looked at it...there was another flash...they looked over there again, and the statue was gone.
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			<description><![CDATA[ I wonder if that Egyptian fertility statue was still standing in 1977.
<br>
<br>
Its no coincidence that in the same episode that Amy got pregnant, and the same episode we saw the full statue, that we also see Amy steal the Ankh off her
dead husbands corpse...the same symbol of fertility the statue is holding. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">IReallyHaveNoIdea wrote:</strong>
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  Well, I would imagine that Ethan was also conceived on the island, unless Horace and Amy slipped away on the sub for a wild weekend. So I think it&#39;s
  still safe to assume that the pregnancy problem was not yet a problem in 1977.
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I agree the pregnancy problem had not happened in 1977. My point was that it is not a matter of when you are when you give birth, it is a matter of... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Well, I would imagine that Ethan was also conceived on the island, unless Horace and Amy slipped away on the sub for a wild weekend.  So I think it&#39;s still
safe to assume that the pregnancy problem was not yet a problem in 1977.
<br>
<br>
Also, people keep saying women on the island die during childbirth, but I thought Juliet has said that they die during their second trimester.  Her reaction
when Amy was giving birth kind of surprised me for that very reason -- she should have known that... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">SA2S wrote:</strong>
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    How can you be sure of that, when Amy just gave birth to little Ethan in 1974 WITHOUT dying? It would appear that whatever happened to make all women die
    during childbirth hadn&#39;t occured yet in 1974-based on the fact that we have seen Ethan be born on-island.
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  Good point - I hadn&#39;t thought of that.
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</blockquote>
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Not necessarily. Juliet said the problem... ]]></description>

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  How can you be sure of that, when Amy just gave birth to little Ethan in 1974 WITHOUT dying? It would appear that whatever happened to make all women die
  during childbirth hadn&#39;t occured yet in 1974-based on the fact that we have seen Ethan be born on-island.
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<br>
Good point - I hadn&#39;t thought of that.  Another hole in the theory is that if Sun was supposed to die before giving birth to Ji Yeon, fate would have
probably course corrected (like it did with... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <em>Everything changes</em> kinda jumped out at me. Yeah? Everything changes? Isn&#39;t that the opposite of whatever happened, happened? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">FeliciaM7 wrote:</strong>
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  That&#39;s why I try not to think too hard. I start getting frustrated. But now I&#39;m kinda stuck on Jacob&#39;s List - talking about a blast from the
  past. I could not freakin&#39; care less about Jacob before the last week or so and now I demand to know who was on that list and why. :)
</blockquote>J.J. Abrams middle�name is Jacob (Jeff Jacob Abrams)....coincedence?? :P
<br>
<br>
I had totally forgot about... ]]></description>

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