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        <![CDATA[ Ill attempt to explain Edgic for anyone new who wants to jump on board. We devote this thread to try and pick the winner (hopefully by or before the merge). We look at the editing player by player and apply logic from past editing patterns or observations about what we have been shown. 

Here is what we do to collect data for each episode:

After watching each episode posters rate the players: 
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Ratings: OTT, CP, MOR, UTR and INV
OTT (over the top) 
CP (complex personality) 
MOR... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: S11 Edgic (Editing and Logic) ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Brain: Bobby<br>
H.eart: Tina<br>
Gut: Aras<br>
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S11 Winner: Danni (Atleast I got to say it in the S11 Edgic thread once). ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ So then we should all put our s12 pick in here before we ruin our picks with our edgic analysis?  Just kidding.  I love edgic analysis.<br>
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(I pick that astronaut dude.)<br>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Kudos to <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>AMBERFREAK</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->!!!<br>
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I hope you don't mind me posting this. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ That's great!<br>
<br>
I like rereading the Edgic threads both to see how the process has evolved and for my own pointers.  By doing this I've figured out my greatest weakness in predicting a winner very early - I fall for the early CP character who goes out at or before the merge.  (Margaret, Rory, Coby.)  I need to do a better job of seeing who's on the radar but not <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>the</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> radar this time out.<br>
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Michael ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Never doubt the powers of Edgic, we had it right before we even started the new season's thread :)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->So, the focus should be the TV Guide Preshow.  Well, that saves a lot of posts.  ;-) ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I was just checking out last season's thread in the Spoiler Attic and stumbled on this post by Unduli as the second to last post in the thread.<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'm avoiding posting in the S11 Edgic thread until Warrior and RW post their parts, but I have to go ahead and throw my winner prediction out there - I think Danni will take it all!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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Never doubt the powers of Edgic, we had... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Look, when you're a Lions fan you scrap for any bit of Superbowl connection, and since we get to host it this year, we gotta root for the hometown boy.  The Superbowl will feel like  a homegame for Pitt next Sunday, that's how Steeler crazy Detroit has gone, of course the home team doesn't usually win at Ford Field so you may be in luck :) ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ --pd--<br>
Oh, and GO STEELERS!!<br>
-----<br>
<br>
If Ben gets knicked up during the game, or suffers a serious injury, hope they won't complain about it.  Oh wait, they already did this season!  <br>
<br>
And just when I thought I knew you, pd!:-)<br>
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Michael ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ To Monster Island we go! Or Purgatory!<br>
<br>
Can't wait to get in on S12's Edgic for the first time. Should provoke lots of fun arguements. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The new thread should be up this afternoon, Watchdogs check your inbox for instructions, and if anyone has any questions just message me.<br>
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Oh, and GO STEELERS!!<br>
<br>
Come on, how can you not root for Bettis?<br>
<br>
Welcome home, Jerome. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I really don't think people are underdeveloped in the slightest. What do Caryn/Janu/Chad all have in common? They're boring. Since the show is all about entertainment value, the most entertaining stuff makes the air. These people had weak airtime because they didn't do much on their seasons in the first place.<br>
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I do agree that Danni is a slight exception. Thanks to Steph returning and a lot of major edits for the merge bootees, she definitely was a bit shorthanded, but that's the way... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ S11 had a different editing pattern than S9 and S10. Every character booted from Blake to Judd was a medium to major character. So if they had continued with a Chad or Janu edit leaving postmerge, Danni could have had more time.<br>
<br>
I wonder if MB heeded the complaints of some people that he focused two much on a few charcters in recent seasons and left too many undeveloped. One way to address that problem is to let the characters in the endgame have their story at the end, so they are... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'm tired of people blaming Steph for Danni's lack of visibility. Danni competed with her tribesmates and allies for camera time. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
No, I'm not blaming Steph for Danni's lack of visibility.  I'm blaming the editors for editing Steph as the star over everyone else.  Not just Danni.  Of course, because Danni was the winner, the lack of time is most prominent in her case.  What's... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Non Edgic note to chaperone, from your favorite (well, possibly) Bengals fan - go Seahawks, please beat the Steelers for us!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->Non-edgic response...I'm doing everything in my power, believe me!!<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I barely remembered Danni at all last season.  Even in the finale.  Except for her one big episode towards the end of the season, of course.<br>
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All I remember from Guatemala is Steph, Steph and more Steph. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Danni was always in the thick of things.......she was the strong girl, and it leaves a memorable presence even if she didn't have memorable quotes most of the time. Sort of like how everybody remembered Alicia. Whereas Vecepia only led to memorable television in the last episode when she won. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>So it's for the most part the Steph show. And she goes very very far. Other players are incidental to this, including BJ, and including the winner.<br>
One thing that interests me is that even though Danni was hidden as the winner (and I am a devout non-believer in the &quot;surprise winner&quot; concept - who wants the average viewer to say, &quot;WTF!!&quot; when the winner is announced) there is little annoyance in... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The fact that the show is mostly challenge footage now means that edgic should place less emphasis on strategizing. The editors like to show people untieing knots and swimming instead of, you know, actually playing the game. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>cl</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->!<br>
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And with that I go beddy-by.  Lookin' forward to the new thread tomorrow, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>pastor</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sorry, but the distinction escapes me. We use hindsight in saying that we should not have dismissed the winner, in order to move forward in future seasons. Most guideline revisions have resulted from missing winners.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
After Chris' win, we implemented the major (and helpful) change of adding PWDs.  Have we eliminated the &quot;Too UTR&quot; edgic guideline after Danni's win?... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Ill attempt to explain Edgic for anyone new who wants to jump on board. We devote this thread to try and pick the winner (hopefully by or before the merge). We look at the editing player by player and apply logic from past editing patterns or observations about what we have been shown. <br>
<br>
Here is what we do to collect data for each episode:<br>
<br>
After watching each episode posters rate the players: <br>
Step 1:<br>
Ratings: OTT, CP, MOR, UTR and INV<br>
OTT (over the top) <br>
CP... ]]></description>

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