Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (cindidindi76) — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:12:18 GMT

IIRC, he wasn't hardcore pushing the "cutting both wires idea", he just wanted to take time to consider if red+blue meant purple or both. Which could mean he was the mole, or it could mean he didn't want them to cut the wrong one.

I was referring more to the "several instances where he tried to sabotage but failed". And personally, I'm not sure it would have been so obvious if Mark didn't run the whole time. It's not like they all saw him...

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Goosehead) — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:03:47 GMT

Well, just like an above poster pointed out, he may have been trying to get them to cut both the blue and red wire (but I don't recall right now if he was really trying to push this option).

I also think that the treadmill challenge was a situation in which it would be difficult to sabotage without being obvious. No one would believe that he needed to stop running, because he's such a strong runner. I'm still convinced that Craig and Nicole were deliberately answering...

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (cindidindi76) — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:57:14 GMT

Kitty Pryde1 wrote:
That's something I've noticed. There are several instances in which Mark has TRIED to sabotage but failed, or he's just been put in a position where if he were to sabotage, it would be extremely obvious.

Such as...?

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Screerider) — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:19:02 GMT

Going for the Dossier is a great Player move. Without it, you have a 50/50 chance of winning $495,000. With it, you have a better than 50/50 chance of winning $420,000. How much better? Well, to use game theory and calculate the value of each choice:

50% * $495,000 = $247,500
58.9% * $420,000 = $247,500

Essentially, you had to just hope the Dossier would give you a 59% chance of winning (or better), instead of a 50% chance of winning, for it to be the right choice.

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (spanellers1) — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:45:05 GMT

Typically, the mole helps the players win the final task (Kathryn in Three Rooms, Bill rejecting the dossier in Top Secret, Frederique in It Takes a Thief, and Angie with that picture game). I think Mark initially planned on helping them win the final mission, BUT I think Mark needed to keep the $75,000 out of the pot because he tried to sabotage the clock-bomb game, but Craig ended up cutting the purple wire instead of blue+red, so Mark had to go for the dossier.

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (veeisforvictory) — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:08:53 GMT

if mark was the mole, that would really suck that he took the dossier...the mole needs to just give the players a break on the last mission and let them have some money...its tradition and its the right thing to do...that's why Craig was walking so slow, I liked him again after this episode

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Kitty Pryde1) — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:04:29 GMT

That's something I've noticed. There are several instances in which Mark has TRIED to sabotage but failed, or he's just been put in a position where if he were to sabotage, it would be extremely obvious.

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Riff) — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:57:51 GMT

Why do I want him to be the mole? That's easy -- because I like being right.

Besides, he just cost Craig or Nicole $75,000 tonight. There, happy?

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Will) — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:33:32 GMT

For the Mole.

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Beautiful Patsy) — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:08:59 GMT

What is FOMO?

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Goosehead) — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:36:09 GMT

If Mark is the Mole, more than likely we'll learn that he: 1. did some sabotage that viewers wouldn't be able to detect; 2. tried but ultimately failed to sabotage in many moments; 3. found himself in bad positions for sabotaging.

I still think it's quite possible that mid to end game too many players were on to him and watching him like a hawk, and as a result he found himself unable to sabotage without it being obvious.

But all you MarkFOMO-haters are right,...

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Screerider) — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:39:32 GMT

Yes. Please give me an example where editing may have made it look like Mark contributed money to the pot but actually didn't.

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (TAR Addict) — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:31:49 GMT

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Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (cindidindi76) — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:34:09 GMT

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Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (TAR Addict) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:52:02 GMT

littltimmy wrote:

Heather was on to him. Dorothy had no clue until Heather told her. Thats why Dorothy won. But still Dorothy <3

I thought Heather was only onto Bill, like, one quiz before she told Dorothy, and before that, she thought it was Dorothy, and before that, Elavia. But regardless, Dorothy <3

...

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (littltimmy) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:49:16 GMT

Heather was on to him. Dorothy had no clue until Heather told her. Thats why Dorothy won. But still Dorothy <3

I thought Heather was only onto Bill, like, one quiz before she told Dorothy, and before that, she thought it was Dorothy, and before that, Elavia. But regardless, Dorothy <3

Mark being the mole would be better than Craig being the mole, because if Craig isn't the mole, it means he...

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (catspasms) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:09:35 GMT

Um, editing can't change the fact that he added $50,000 to the pot with the Exemption in the cage challenge and $70,000 to the pot with the wine-riddles-treadmill challenge--which he could have sabotaged very very easily and in a subtle way if he had taken a role besides running on the treadmill.

Just those 2 decisions added $120,000 to the pot. That's about 1/3 of the pot right there.

Not to mention the fact that he yelled at Craig to put in the correct code in...

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Goosehead) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:21:05 GMT

I agree with the above poster. As a Mark-FOMO supporter, I'm really hoping that they'll show us things that none of us could possibly have caught onto, and if he's the Mole, I have a feeling that he got into some difficult situations in which sabotage would be difficult without giving himself away (and example being the treadmill position in that wine mission. I think that Craig and Nicole were testing him to see if he would pipe up with the obvious answers or not).

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Latuki Joe) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:47:34 GMT

Only thing I'd remind you of (Scree especially) is that sometimes they edit things to not quite show sabotages as they happened.

Re: Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (TAR Addict) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:05:00 GMT

Heather was on to him. Dorothy had no clue until Heather told her. Thats why Dorothy won. But still Dorothy <3

Why Would Mark Being The Mole Be A Good Thing Again?

feeds@yuku.com (Beautiful Patsy) — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:31:19 GMT

I just don't get how Mark being the Mole would be good. I'd love for Nicole to be the Mole, but I'd still much prefer Craig being the Mole to Mark.

I mean, what would be the point of the show if Mark is the Mole? Everyone has "sabotaged" something or another, but Mark has, by far, sabotaged the least of pretty much everyone, but especially the remaining 3. If he's the Mole maybe next season the Mole just won't sabotage anything at all to stay hidden....