TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (craig) — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:18:19 GMT

Jerry vs Judas & Womanizer is defintely the #1 rivalry of BB10.
April vs Keesha and Libra vs Michelle had the potential to be better, but those women got eliiminated too soon.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (jensamember36) — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:36:04 GMT

craig wrote:

D: There's always something in each season that is remembered
K: What's this season?
Jerry points at Dan and himself
D: No.. there's been bigger things than me and you, Jerry... you think?
D: Judas.. Judas will be a Top Three
J: It's up there, but .. it has to do more with a triangle between you and Memphis and me...

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (craig) — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:57:47 GMT

D: There's always something in each season that is remembered
K: What's this season?
Jerry points at Dan and himself
D: No.. there's been bigger things than me and you, Jerry... you think?
D: Judas.. Judas will be a Top Three
J: It's up there, but .. it has to do more with a triangle between you and Memphis and me
Keesha walks outside
D: And her?
J: No, not here..
J: No, you and me...

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (JaMalle) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:27:09 GMT

At that point where Robb had left, everyone (except Ken) was starting to gang up on Shii Ann as Shii Ann and Ken bashed the hell out of Penny. The rivalvy ended after the fake merge where Shii had been screwed over by a twist with even Ken mad that she was starting to turn on them.

Well Shii was also close to Jake, but yeah she was closest to Ken. I don't remember Jake joining in on the Shii gang-up, mostly Penny/Erin/Steph/Jedd/Rob.

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Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (Thailandsurvivor) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:04:37 GMT

craig wrote:

all the way to the final 5 where Helen and Ted tried to get rid of Clay.
Ted did, but Helen? She thought she had a F2 with Brian, and Ted was the biggest physical threat. I think Grindgate was a factor, in that Helen and Jan didn't want to work with Ted because of that. Otherwisw how did Clay stay when Helen hated him?

Jan told Brian about Ted and Helen...

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (craig) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:59:54 GMT

all the way to the final 5 where Helen and Ted tried to get rid of Clay.

Ted did, but Helen? She thought she had a F2 with Brian, and Ted was the biggest physical threat. I think Grindgate was a factor, in that Helen and Jan didn't want to work with Ted because of that. Otherwisw how did Clay stay when Helen hated him?

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (WylDawg) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:03:59 GMT

Varner vs Mike was 100% one sided with just Jeff making fun of Mike and his spear

Yep, this was pretty much closet case Varner feeling threatened by the alpha dad. And then his delusions that if it weren't for Mike's accident, Mike would've been voted out at the next TC because apparently Varner was the puppet master of Kucha.

It's 7 years later, and I still find that funny.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (Thailandsurvivor) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:47:42 GMT

JaMalle wrote:
ShiiAnn vs Sook Jai should be on there. She received votes from her tribemates at every TC until she was finally booted. She was "ostracized" according to some, and didn't get along with anyone sans Jake and Ken, the only people that she needed to get in good with in order to survive SJ so long. Fake merge is where the rivalry climaxed.

Shii Ann vs Robb and co vs Sook Jai would...

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (chapera rocks) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:12:18 GMT

I agree, Shii Ann/Sook Jai is easily top 10 material. Well, close to it anyway.

So is Jase(horseman)/Diane(the girls). Anyone who watched it could see how bitter and intense the rivalry got. Come on now.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (JaMalle) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:15:48 GMT

ShiiAnn vs Sook Jai should be on there. She received votes from her tribemates at every TC until she was finally booted. She was "ostracized" according to some, and didn't get along with anyone sans Jake and Ken, the only people that she needed to get in good with in order to survive SJ so long. Fake merge is where the rivalry climaxed.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (chapera rocks) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:58:13 GMT

Joanna liked Jenna.

And that whole argument is moot because they never made the jury, and if they did, Jenna wouldn't have made the finals, because they weren't her allies. If the ENTIRE cast was the jury...

Votes for Jenna: Janet, Joanna, Shawna, Dave, Deena, Alex, Christy, Heidi, Rob
Votes for Matt: Ryan, Daniel, Jeanne, Roger, Butch

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (finishthemoff) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:45:47 GMT

To be totally fair, Matt has absolutely no shot of beating Jenna with extremely pro-Jenna jury (Christy Smith is actually a feminist and bisexual. If I remember it correctly, her sorority was among the most pro-wymen out there). Matt would have probably CRUSHED Jenna if ALL prejury-boot made it. I would say that Roger, Ryan, Daniel Lu, Jeanette and possibly Joanna would vote for Matt. Only Shawna seems like a sure bet to vote for Jenna.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (craig) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:16:51 GMT

Here are 7 also rans that I've ehard recommended for inclusion in Top 20. Anyone want to make a case for or against these, and at the expense of which other rivalries?

S5 - Clay vs Helen (vs Ted?)
S5 - Shii Ann vs Sook Jai
S9 - Chris vs the Women
S14 - Dreamz vs Lisi & Horsemen

BB3 Danielle vs Roddy
BB5 Nakomis & Diane vs the Horsemen
BB9 Natalie vs James

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (craig) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:49:27 GMT

Jenna vs Rob C was strategic, Jenna vs Christy was personal.
So what if Jenna let Heidi do the talking on that occasion, it was a "Jendi" move. I didn't spotlight Danielle or Cirie in my Aras vs Terry write-up either.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (The Marquesan Godfather) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:28:07 GMT

Christy vs. Jenna and Heidi is not the best fued in reality tv history. its not even the best feud of S6 of Survivor, that being Cesternino vs. Jenna. This list is very self-indulgent and plays to Craigss own preferences.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (Quiddity) — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:05:48 GMT

chapera rocks wrote:

See, that I would agree with. But the way you instead wrote it was as if it was all due to Jenna, just one of numerous instances where your write up twisted things to make Jenna look much more positive than she was actually portrayed that season. Jenna and Heidi worked on Christy hardcore to get her to come to their side. Christy, not being that...

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (Us Kids Know) — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:48:24 GMT

Kitty Pryde1 wrote:
Hell, we should've seen this coming after you did your Jen vs. Donatos write-up when, despite getting owned out of the house with more votes than voters and not even voting for the eventual winner, you managed to find some ray of sunshine to say that Jen won the rivalry a little bit.

Well, she did definitely win.............................at life.

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (YemaGrl1988) — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:25:21 GMT

Jenna vs. Christy at #1?
REALLY?
REALLY?

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (RobVanStratus) — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:54:01 GMT

The Sue/Kelly/Rich feud was amazing! It started with Sue/Kelly/Rich making the alliance and Sue/Kelly dealing behind Rich's back to get rid of him at the end. There was always this little feud between Sue and Rich because Rich saw her as a dumb hick and she saw him as a pompous ass, but they worked together because they knew they needed each other. Then it all blew up when Kelly started becoming too friendly with the Pagongs, causing Sue to turn on Kelly and then it became Rich/Sue vs...

Re: TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (beatles20147) — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:57:28 GMT

Kelly vs. Sue was based on Kelly being wishy-washy with the alliance and playing to win favor with the Pagongs that would make up most of the jury. The feud actually didn't kick in fully until the very end of the game (F5ish); a few scenes were shown out of context earlier than they actually occurred. I would actually put the main feud as Sue vs. Rich, simply because it crossed two seasons and had varying degrees of intensity. It moved from Sue's secret plan to overthrow Rich to...

TOP 20 Survivor & BB Rivalries (with #1)

feeds@yuku.com (craig) — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:08:13 GMT

I decided to present at countdown list and wanted to do something fresh. So may I present the 20 greatest, bitterest, and most controversial rivalries between players on Survivor and Big Brother.

The list will include 14 from Survivor and 6 from BB. I will count them down in pairs. I tend to pick rivalries that run through a season and generate debate on the boards. Most of my top faves were involved in such rivalries, and that's a big part of why I love them more intensely...