S16 FINALE Story Arcs

Re: S16 FINALE Story Arcs

feeds@yuku.com (MyBoyGus) — Sun, 11 May 2008 18:46:52 GMT

CoolJewel wrote:

Theoretically, Cirie should beat both Amanda and Parvati easily.

Jedi, assuming an Amanda and Cirie F2, who do you see voting Cirie? I agree that Cirie has made some INCREDIBLE strategic moves. But she's also been portrayed as not having very tight alliances, aka "anybody out but me". given these two in F2 I could see:

for amanda: Ozzy, Jason,...

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feeds@yuku.com (Jedijake) — Sun, 11 May 2008 18:38:19 GMT

Well, I never really considered an Amanda/Cirie final 2.

However, if Cirie is in the final 3, I'd say she has the best chance of winning.

If Cirie does not win, I either expect her to be the first one voted off tonight (that would SUCK) or for Probst to say "hey, it's a final 2 this season-surprise" which would SUCK even more because nobody prepared for that. Given that it's Mother's Day and Cirie is the only mother there, that would be a bummer....

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feeds@yuku.com (CoolJewel) — Sun, 11 May 2008 18:12:11 GMT

Theoretically, Cirie should beat both Amanda and Parvati easily.

Jedi, assuming an Amanda and Cirie F2, who do you see voting Cirie? I agree that Cirie has made some INCREDIBLE strategic moves. But she's also been portrayed as not having very tight alliances, aka "anybody out but me". given these two in F2 I could see:

for amanda: Ozzy, Jason, Parv, James, Eliza
for Cirie: Alexis, Nat,
? Eric

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feeds@yuku.com (Jedijake) — Sun, 11 May 2008 17:39:32 GMT

Theoretically, Cirie should beat both Amanda and Parvati easily.

Amanda should beat Parvati easily.

Parvati should beat Natalie-not sure how easily.

If any of the above are not true, then we have one of the most clueless juries that spawns memories of Amazon. We also have one of the biggest enigmas ever in Survivor history.

If Parvati beats Amanda or Cirie, we have one of the biggest head-scratchers ever and may never actually know why she won (like...

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feeds@yuku.com (urrout) — Sun, 11 May 2008 17:24:13 GMT

Because if they hadn't tricked him, it may have been Cirie, Nat and Eric final 3. Ozzie would have voted for Eric.

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feeds@yuku.com (CoolJewel) — Sun, 11 May 2008 17:08:38 GMT

I just watched the james Pondersosa video. In there, Ozzy is talking to Eric and says something along the lines of "you could have won this thing man. If it was you, Natalie and CIRIE, I would have voted for you."

So, why did Oz pick those three? I'm guessing what he's saying that he'd give a vote to Amanda (obviously) and Parvati, but what's he got against Cirie?

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feeds@yuku.com (Jedijake) — Sun, 11 May 2008 15:04:39 GMT

Actually, it's the other way around. Cirie knew that Jonathan and Yau Man were better players than Amanda/Parvati. Thus, she knew she stood a better chance against people who were less skilled at the game.

I'm hoping to hear a confessional from Cirie in the beginning of tonight's episode explaining how she's been stirring the pot the entire game and nobody's even been noticing.

Is this the first time ever that we are going into the final 4 not having a...

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feeds@yuku.com (azcanadienne) — Sun, 11 May 2008 15:03:56 GMT

I think she knew they were more easily manipulated - which in the long run, was a better strategic plan for her

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feeds@yuku.com (Relynn) — Sun, 11 May 2008 13:44:31 GMT

Jedijake wrote:
In episode 1 she said she was pretty much the classic couch potato who didn't quite have a plan yet. Why is that important? Because in episode 2, she saw what her plan was to be-to join with those she could more easily manipulate.

Maybe Cirie also felt that Amanda/Parvati were better players than Ami/Jonathon/Eliza/Yau man... Plus having James/Ozzy would help ensure they'd have a...

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feeds@yuku.com (shoeless rye) — Sun, 11 May 2008 13:18:17 GMT

Before the spoilers sheets I though Cirie was getting the winners edit. I think she must have been approached by both sides to join, but it was never shown, instead they made it about JFP - Cirie was never mentioned. So it made it look like she was an afterthough, a non-player if you will in the opening power grab. To go from that to the winner would have been a helluva story arc.

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feeds@yuku.com (Jedijake) — Sun, 11 May 2008 13:14:29 GMT

I think perhaps that was intentional. By not showing anyone seeking her out immediately, it caused the rationale for her to join Parvati and Amanda.

It made her look less like someone who may be betraying JAYE. She was a free agent. That was the point. They could have left her out completely, but they subtly hinted at why she could make any decision she wanted.

In episode 1 she said she was pretty much the classic couch potato who didn't quite have a plan yet. Why is...

Re: S16 FINALE Story Arcs

feeds@yuku.com (urrout) — Sun, 11 May 2008 12:14:29 GMT

Jedijake wrote:
Cirie has NEVER been mentioned as a possible boot. Yet, she keeps bringing up the "anyone but me" phrase. This echos Sandra and Chris in a lot of ways.

Which is why the first episode is so strange. Nobody mentions wanting to align with her either. Nobody wants to align with her but nobody wants to boot her either. They did have that scene of Fairplay and Cirie walking on the...

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feeds@yuku.com (shoeless rye) — Sun, 11 May 2008 11:37:46 GMT

Orangeena wrote:
As we move to the Finale to End All Finales(NOT!) I mean, this season has been sooo incredible up to this point that I don't see how a finale of these 4 individuals can top it...It's bound to be anti-climatic...
But I digress

I keep thinking of the unnecessary Cirie scenes that haven't paid off yet...They just stick out at me and there are a FEW-

The Cirie/Ami crab hunting and...

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feeds@yuku.com (Jedijake) — Sun, 11 May 2008 10:45:12 GMT

Yeah, nothing has ever lead to Cirie's downfall. There's been enough visibility in Cirie to put her in the forefront while not shoving her down our throat as a threat to win or someone who others want gone.

This was always the case with both Chris and Sandra. They were very present before the merge, slowed down a bit after the merge, then sped up toward the end. At the same time, they were central to the voting and decision making while not being threatened themselves.
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feeds@yuku.com (sunflower101) — Sun, 11 May 2008 03:34:02 GMT

Orangeena wrote:
As we move to the Finale to End All Finales(NOT!) I mean, this season has been sooo incredible up to this point that I don't see how a finale of these 4 individuals can top it...It's bound to be anti-climatic...
But I digress

I keep thinking of the unnecessary Cirie scenes that haven't paid off yet...They just stick out at me and there are a FEW-

The Cirie/Ami crab hunting and...

Re: S16 FINALE Story Arcs

feeds@yuku.com (sunsawed) — Sun, 11 May 2008 02:16:30 GMT

With a potential Jury of 8 it doesn't make sense to have the F2 face the Jury. That might result in a tie.

But if Courtney got the last vote it, would have resulted in a 3-3-1 tie, which would have been have to have been resolved SOMEHOW.

What BETTER a conclusion than a LIVE Final Tribal Council to break the tie! Third place OUT and vote amongst the two left.

Of all the combinations, I see it Amanda V Natalie, Good V Evil. In this scenario, Cirie vote...

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feeds@yuku.com (Orangeena) — Sun, 11 May 2008 00:20:10 GMT

As we move to the Finale to End All Finales(NOT!) I mean, this season has been sooo incredible up to this point that I don't see how a finale of these 4 individuals can top it...It's bound to be anti-climatic...

But I digress

I keep thinking of the unnecessary Cirie scenes that haven't paid off yet...They just stick out at me and there are a FEW-

The Cirie/Ami crab hunting and killing scene. It was included why? To show Cirie is a lot more agile than she...

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feeds@yuku.com (Coachocd) — Sat, 10 May 2008 21:14:43 GMT

Coach it doesn't indicate Nat
It indicated faVorites
At the time it was posted, no one knew for sure if the end players were all favorites or not

Really? Oops. Thanks for the correction.

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feeds@yuku.com (checkinguy) — Sat, 10 May 2008 17:52:22 GMT

Jedijake wrote:

√ Neither Cirie nor Amanda are detestable in the least. Both are liked and well respected. NEITHER have ever had anything negative said about them leading us to believe they could lose a jury vote-not one iota.

√ Amanda is the most likeable of the final 4.

X Cirie is the clear mastermind and superior strategist of the final 4....

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feeds@yuku.com (AllMenAreIslands) — Sat, 10 May 2008 17:19:08 GMT

azcanadienne wrote:
I think we're looking at an Amanda/Parvati F2, just based on the Ozzy clue alone.

Actually, based on that Ozzy clue, it would hint MORE that Amanda is not in the F2, because Parvati in the end chose to take Natalie (assuming the choice is Parvati's.) Or maybe Amanda is out at F4, in part because Parvati voted her out or because she did something that didn't secure her safety....

S16 FINALE Story Arcs

feeds@yuku.com (sunsawed) — Fri, 09 May 2008 02:21:38 GMT

NATALIE:

"DON'T BITE THE APPLE!"

We've been focusing so hard on our potential "EVE"s, we've forgotten about who was OFFERING the Apple, the SERPENT. Wonder, no more. After tonight, it's freaking OBVIOUS. It's NATALIE.

She used her wonderous voodoo on both JASON and...