Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/2577/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:09:57 GMT Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:13:37 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/2577/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/3800768/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-3800768
Ken - Clearly, he sees himself as a mastermind.
Crystal - She's more of a chief - every move is rationalized.
Susie - She looks like a follower, but she's most likely more of an opportunist.
Sugar - I think her tendency is to be a follower - her anger at Ace when she thought he was betraying her is typical - but she can be an opportunist at times
Matty - He's a chief, but... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (TheLurkerSpeaks) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/3800768 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:13:37 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154145/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154145 feeds@yuku.com (ktchong) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154145 Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:41:01 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154144/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154144
There have been things that Yul has followed on like following Becky's alliance plan, listening to others when it comes to Jonathon and Cowboy. But in this game, a good leader is probably someone who isn't one hundred percent obvious about the fact that they are leading. They listen to the other people in the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Relynn) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154144 Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:56:24 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154143/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154143 feeds@yuku.com (ktchong) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154143 Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:23:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154142/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154142 feeds@yuku.com (Relynn) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154142 Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:52:40 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154141/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154141
Parvati - She really talks a good game, but I don't know that she's cold enough to follow through as a Mastermind. I don't think she wants control - she just wants on the good side of whoever is in control.

Jenny - Perhaps she is an opportunist, but I'm just not feeling it. She may not have loyalties to the Asians though since she may well have been an outsider among them. I think her allegiance is to Rebecca as things stand. Certainly her vote... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (TheLurkerSpeaks) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154141 Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:16:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154140/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154140
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Parvati - Opportunist. She's basically self-identified though I suppose she might drift when presented with actual choices.


I think this is a good early call, but Parvati has got some mastermind in her. I think she'll emerge more as a strategic leader when the tribe is smaller and closer-knit.

feeds@yuku.com (KerryAhn) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154140 Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:43:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154139/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154139
Parvati - Opportunist. She's basically self-identified though I suppose she might drift when presented with actual choices.

Nathan - Opportunist. He hinted at scheming against J. P. before his boot (though that was rendered moot), and he certainly pushed Stephannie out the door. Yet he hasn't taken control of the tribe (yet).

Adam - Opportunist? We haven't really seen too much yet to judge, but he... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (TheLurkerSpeaks) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154139 Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:04:04 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154138/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154138
Raro-
Parvati- Schemer
Nate- Schemer?
Adam- Loyalist?
Jenny- Schemer
Rebecca- Schemer
Brad- Loyalist?
Christina- Loyalist/Goat

Aitu-
Ozzy- Schemer
Johnathon- Schemer
Flicka- Loyalist/Goat
Yul- Loyalist
Becky- Loyalist
Candice- Loyalist?
Cao Boi- Loyalist/Goat ]]> feeds@yuku.com (JaMalle) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154138 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:36:46 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154137/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154137
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Right now, Danielle, Aras, and Cirie are in a good spot. The only person able to get rid of Aras is Terry-that's only with the use of the idol.


right there is the F4. SO, who is the goat? It seems
as though Cerie is running the show at times, and Aras
at times. We've also seen Danielle seemingly in charge
at times!!

Terry might be the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (tigeranne) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154137 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:33:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154136/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154136
Christy wasn't close with Matt much at all. She may have been with Butch, but her closest relationship was with Deena. Alliances of convenience don't indicate affinity in any case. Most likely, she looked for a reason to vote for Matt against Jenna, but with everyone else ridiculing Matt, couldn't find one. I have heard she didn't want to look like she was voting out of spite.

Craig,

If you are right about Deena hating Alex, then I suppose Jenna... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (TheLurkerSpeaks) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154136 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:08:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154135/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154135
Shane's a little bit against Cirie, but I can't see him getting support to get rid of her.

Danielle's below Courtney on that chopping block. She's playing much more low key and obviously gets along with Cirie more than Courtney.

While Shane and Courtney battle out for the most sensative of the year, they would seem to be the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jedijake) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154135 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:39:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154134/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154134 feeds@yuku.com (JaMalle) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154134 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:48:26 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154133/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154133 But there is no way Alex gets Deena's vote over Jenna.

Deena didn't like him. She posted her winner order of preference at one point. Rob and Jenna were top 2, while Alex ranked below Christy, Heidi, and Matt.

Deena bonded with Rob and Jenna over being huge Survivor fans, and probably thought of Alex as the doofus who went gaga over Shawna while ignoring her. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (craig) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154133 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:58:46 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154132/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154132
I wasn't really looking at whether a matchup was likely, but what would happen if it occurred under the most likely events leading to it. I don't think it really counters my point that Jenna would have likely lost to Alex to suggest that she probably wouldn't ever have faced Alex.

My take on Alex... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (TheLurkerSpeaks) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154132 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:42:44 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154131/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154131
Dave said he would have voted for Jenna over Heidi.
I really a Jenna\Heidi F2 in most likely if the cool kids alliance made F4 as planned. One of the girls would beat Alex in the Maze, and take him out as the bigger threat. Remember, Alex only hooked up with J\H after Shawna was booted.

If one of the guys made F2, Rob wouldn't have the same respect as a master schemer.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (craig) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154131 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:00:09 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154130/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154130 feeds@yuku.com (pzkwVI) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154130 Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:36:09 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154129/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154129 feeds@yuku.com (sunnmaid) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154129 Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:30:27 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154128/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154128 feeds@yuku.com (TheLurkerSpeaks) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154128 Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:43:48 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/154127/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html#reply-154127 feeds@yuku.com (pzkwVI) http://www.survivorsucks.com/sreply/154127 Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:57:15 GMT <![CDATA[ Loyalists, Schemers, and Goats (Strategy and Ethics) ]]> http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/2577/t/Loyalists-Schemers-and-Goats-Strategy-and-Ethics-.html
Loyalists must do some scheming, just as Schemers must feign loyalty. Both types form alliances early in the game, vote out weak or obnoxious tribe members, and target... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (craig) http://www.survivorsucks.com/topic/2577 Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:09:57 GMT