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        <![CDATA[ I've moved this from edgic at KQ's suggestion.

 find it fascinating how, in each season, little family configurations seem to ally and hold tight, and how the members of each 'family' end up in the F4. Almost all of us grew up in families of some kind--mother (M), father (F), kids (S,D=son, daughter), maybe an eccentric uncle/grandparent type (E) in the mix. Under stressful conditions, people naturally reproduce a time in their lives when they felt safest.  All of us can be mothers, fathers,... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  She may have been young, but she didn&#39;t come across as a Daughter type
</blockquote>I thought she was definitely a Daughter or more accurately, a Sister.  She had all her bonds with women her age.  She was spoken of by Parvati and
Alexis in a sisterly/peer way.  She was shown holding hands with Alexis for comfort in the rat cave.
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&quot;Eccentric&quot;, here, doesn&#39;t necessarily mean odd or outlandish behavior, though they often include that.  Eccentric means... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Interesting that you didn&#39;t view Natalie as an Eccentric. She may have been young, but she didn&#39;t come across as a Daughter type. Even when her mom
came on the Reward, she was shown helping her navigate the stairs. Not a Mom role, but not a Daughter either in my opinion. It&#39;s a minor thing, but it
would meant the F4 was D, D, M, E.
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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the great summaries, <span style="font-weight: bold;">LV</span>.
<br>
<br>
This season had all those evacuations, plus mass stupidity by the idol-holding men.  It gutted the Father pool as well as the Eccentrics.
<br>
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The Mother- Daughters alliance had the ring of some truth to it, though.  Cirie, despite her attacks of paranoia, anchored and advised the Daughters at key
moments.  And the age difference came into play again, as the daughters&#39; bonds were stronger than with... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Lady V wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  ~~**~ FF4 PREDICTIONS ~**~~ SEASON 16: FANS VS. FAVORITES weird season, lost 3 people unexpectedly
  <br>
  <br>
  1) the F6 will contain an E, an F, an M, and some kids. (12 of 16 seasons)
  <br>
  **Nope. No F, no E.
  <br>
  2) F4 will not contain two people with the same role. (11 of 16)
  <br>
  **Nope. M and three Ds.
  <br>
  3) There will not be 2 Fs or 2Ms in the F6 (0/15).
  <br>
  **CORRECT!
  <br>
  4) the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Historical FF4 finishes (1st letter winner, second comes in second, etc.):
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S1: F,D,M,E
<br>
S2: M,S,F,D
<br>
S3: S,M,F,E
<br>
S4: M,D,M,F
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S5: F,S,M,E
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S6: D,E,S,F
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S7: M,E,S,D
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S8: D,S,M,F
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S9: F,E,M,D
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S10: F,D,S,D
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S11: D,D,S,M * (F voted out F7)
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S12: S,D,F,M
<br>
S13: S,E,D,M * (F voted out F7)
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S14: F,M/S,E (only an F3, so hard to tell who was 2nd and who 3rd)
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S15: S,D,D/E,M *(F3 season again)
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S16: D, D, M, D ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ ~~**~ FF4 PREDICTIONS ~**~~ SEASON 16: FANS VS. FAVORITES weird season, lost 3 people unexpectedly
<br>
<br>
1) the F6 will contain an E, an F, an M, and some kids. (12 of 16 seasons)
<br>
**Nope. No F, no E.
<br>
2) F4 will not contain two people with the same role. (11 of 16)
<br>
**Nope. M and three Ds.
<br>
3) There will not be 2 Fs or 2Ms in the F6 (0/15).
<br>
**CORRECT!
<br>
4) the F2 will not be two dads nor two moms. (0/15)
<br>
**CORRECT!
<br>
<br>
Now the FF4 predictions for F2 and... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Well... F4: Cerie (M) and three daughters. Quite an unusual season. S16: D,D,M,D I&#39;m looking forward to Africa. If it&#39;s anything at all like S3, it
will be brutal. Perhaps FF4 will then be able to re-emerge... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  Miss Scamper:
  <br>
  Next to get the boot: Erik or Amanda.
  <br>
  I predict F3: Cirie, Miss PeeWater, and Natalie
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
It&#39;s interesting to see Mother Cirie and her two Daughters smoothing things over with each other.  The Sister alliance disappeared quickly, once Eric won
immunity.
<br>
<br>
Parvati spoke of having a strong bond built with Amanda.  My guess is that the Mother+Sisters alliance will hold together to the f-3.
<br>
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I don&#39;t see... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m rather puzzled by how popular Amanda is and how unpopular Cirie is in comparison. I guess Amanda changed her game to befriend everyone in her tribe; in
China she said she pretty much stuck with Todd and ignored the rest. So, good for her!
<br>
<br>
However, I don&#39;t know why Cirie isn&#39;t considered a threat as well. We haven&#39;t seen anyone saying they dislike Cirie. I don&#39;t think Cirie&#39;s
been fighting with anyone. It looks to me like she has a pass to the F3 because... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  Could this be the first season the women actually end up coming together and making it work?
  <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Bingo, <span style="font-weight: bold;">Lady V</span>.  It would be a record-making all-female F-3.  And we should get some satisfaction out of seeing Cirie
make it to at least F-3 if we have any luck at all.
<br>
<br>
All women, with a Mom included.  Not really a bad outcome for FF-4, at least statistically.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m starting to think that Erik, like Chris in Vanuatu, might be the last man standing. If he&#39;s really lucky, perhaps Amanda, Miss PeeWater, Alexis and
Natalie will start fighting for the daughter position and give Erik a hall pass right to the F4. My guess for F4 right now is:
<br>
<br>
M: Cirie
<br>
D: Miss PeeWater
<br>
S: Erik
<br>
D: Alexis or Amanda
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			<description><![CDATA[ So yall think Erik intentionally positioned himself as the monkey, once the E role was vacated? (If that was his strategy going in, that would explain the hair
and the shorts, too.)
<br>
<br>
<br>
I still think people&#39;s &quot;true&quot; roles come out when they&#39;re stressed, when all their attention in on necessities, not on controlling
interpersonal actions. FF4 demands more starvation!
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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with you, FLF. It is too bad, as it makes every season seem the same. The kids outnumber and try to kill off the parents. I find it interesting that
the M this season, Cerie, is masterminding so many boots. Reminds me of S2! Could this be the first season the women actually end up coming together and making
it work? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The last two seasons have not been kind to FF-4. 
<br>
<br>
I think the evolution of the game from the early seasons of clueless players to the latter seasons of players who know every twist and turn in the road has
made them too aware of the Family dynamics.  We&#39;ve had seasons starting with Guatemala, where players have commented on those attempting Mother roles, etc.
 Even with the new twists added, players have a well-know road map through each season.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Actually, Eric said that now he is Ozzy&#39;s monkey!  This is a truly dark and dysfunctional Father-Son relationship. Lol.
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			<description><![CDATA[ You know, they&#39;ve told us about four times that Erik is the puppy. Ozzy could still be S and have responsibility for a pet.
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  What Ozzy says, goes. Ozzy is definitely the Father.
  <br>
</blockquote>Really? I kinda see his reluctance to accept leadership as a sign that he&#39;s really a Son.  Forced into an F role, maybe, by circumstances, but
to me the defining characteristic of adults is their willingness to take on leadership/authority roles.  Remember F Dave last season? He was like, &quot;I run
the tribe, like it or vote me out.&quot;  Fs are judged on their success in challenges and at camp. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ What Ozzy says, goes.  Ozzy is definitely the Father.
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			<description><![CDATA[ This season the median age was 32, with 10 players over, and 10 players under (5 from each tribe).
<br>
9/10 of the under 32s remain, all but Mary.
<br>
9/10 of the over 32s are gone, all but Cirie. I think she is the only married person and only parent left.
<br>
<br>
Family dynamics suggest Cirie should stick around. But Parvati has an advantage should they be the main contenders facing the jury. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  I agree that lately we&#39;ve had a lot of fractured families on Survivor. I actually think this is a casting problem.
</blockquote>I do, too. I don&#39;t think their psychologist is as omniscient as Probst likes to tell us, but there are enough instruments, plus her own good
sense, for her to do a pretty good job of picking tribes that are functional or dysfunctional. I think that MB and them have decided that dysfunction is more
entertaining, so we get people with the more... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I've moved this from edgic at KQ's suggestion.<br>
<br>
 find it fascinating how, in each season, little family configurations seem to ally and hold tight, and how the members of each 'family' end up in the F4. Almost all of us grew up in families of some kind--mother (M), father (F), kids (S,D=son, daughter), maybe an eccentric uncle/grandparent type (E) in the mix. Under stressful conditions, people naturally reproduce a time in their lives when they felt safest.  All of us can be mothers,... ]]></description>

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